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ETC 2012 - tim Srbija
Largo Wed Dec 28, 2011 5:29 pm
Za sada je sledeće poznato
1. igra se tri dana po dve partije dnevno
2. Datum 17-19. avgust
3. Ostaje 8 igrača
Preliminarni tim:
1. Dragomir Dopuđa - Bret
2. Mladen Jović - HE
3. Andrija Šerfeze - WoC
4. Marjan Floigl - Skaven
5. Vladimir Ćurčić - LIZ
6. Svenson a.k.a bog warhammera - DE
7. Maxa - DoC
8. Darko - DW
9. Nikola - EMP
10. Kiwi - WE/VC
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Ovo je uži izbor do kog je došao komitet posle većanja (pravo glasa su imali članovi ETC tima koji su do sada bili makar na jednom ETC)
Uslov da neko bude izabran za Tim je sledeći:
1. Aktivno učešće u kreiranju i komentarisanju listi
2. Aktivno učestvovanje u treninzima do početka ETC (termini će biti postavljeni - cilj je dve subote mesečno + liga)
3. Da do 30.5.2012 potvrdi svoj odlazak na ETC
Prevoz će biti organizovan najverovatnije kolima - 3 kola
Smeštaj je rezervisan i on je oko 12 € za noć
Ako je neko zainteresovan za ESC - da se dogovorimo i oko toga.
1. igra se tri dana po dve partije dnevno
2. Datum 17-19. avgust
3. Ostaje 8 igrača
Preliminarni tim:
1. Dragomir Dopuđa - Bret
2. Mladen Jović - HE
3. Andrija Šerfeze - WoC
4. Marjan Floigl - Skaven
5. Vladimir Ćurčić - LIZ
6. Svenson a.k.a bog warhammera - DE
7. Maxa - DoC
8. Darko - DW
9. Nikola - EMP
10. Kiwi - WE/VC
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Ovo je uži izbor do kog je došao komitet posle većanja (pravo glasa su imali članovi ETC tima koji su do sada bili makar na jednom ETC)
Uslov da neko bude izabran za Tim je sledeći:
1. Aktivno učešće u kreiranju i komentarisanju listi
2. Aktivno učestvovanje u treninzima do početka ETC (termini će biti postavljeni - cilj je dve subote mesečno + liga)
3. Da do 30.5.2012 potvrdi svoj odlazak na ETC
Prevoz će biti organizovan najverovatnije kolima - 3 kola
Smeštaj je rezervisan i on je oko 12 € za noć
Ako je neko zainteresovan za ESC - da se dogovorimo i oko toga.
Last edited by Largo on Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:09 pm; edited 3 times in total
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Re: ETC 2012 - tim Srbija
Largo Sun Jan 15, 2012 6:08 pm
Treba da glasamo za LOS ovo su predlozi:
Dear Captains,
Its time for you to decide how line of sight will be played at WFB ETC 2012. Bellow you will see options proposed by AR Committee.
Please vote on the following issues:
1. Line of sight at WFB ETC 2012 will be played according to:
A) True line of sight (i.e the way it is in the Rule book.)
B) Virtual line of sight (please choose type in next question)
2. Which type of Virtual line of sight for WFB ETC 2012 you prefer (if vote for first question ends in favor of Virtual line of sight):
A) Virtual Line of Sight based on variable "heights" - system we used at ETC 2011*
B) Simple line of sight (as below)**
*Virtual Line of Sight
Size chart:
0: Swarms - models of this size never block line of sight or give cover.
1: Infantry, War Beasts, War Machines, Unique without the Large Target rule
2: Cavalry, Monstrous Infantry/Cavalry/Beasts, Chariots, O&G Manglers
3: Monsters, all Large Targets
Line of sight is always checked virtually, drawn "base to base". Models see in their front 1/4 zone. Line of Sight is blocked by models that are equal to or larger than both: the model whose line of sight we are checking and its target.
Line of sight and war machines:
Catapults (and similar) can place their template so that the center is over any one unit that is at least partially visible to them.
Cannons can choose any point between themselves and a visible target when firing. Over- or under-guessing to shoot at units the cannon does not have line of sight to is not allowed
Terrain
Hills are size two for each level (so a 3-step hill is size 6) and block sight / give hard cover just like models of that size. Models standing on hills add the hill size to their own size. Edit - In 2011 all hills are level 1, therefore size 2.
Buildings and large rocks always block line of sight completely.
Forests do not block line of sight, but soft cover applies to all shots fired through or into (but not out of) forests.
Ruins do not block line of sight, but hard cover applies to all shots fired into (but not through/out of) ruins.
Units standing behind obstacles gain soft (wood) or hard (stone) cover as per the RB.
Buildings are treated as: as infinitely high, units inside are height 2 I (in terms of what they can see and determining cover against their shots). All buildings are level 1
Lakes – treat lakes exactly the same as rivers in the Rulebook
Hedges/fences etc. – treat all of them as stone obstacles: grant hard cover and -1 to hit in close combat against the defender, exactly as per the rulebook.
Fields – Soft cover for any unit inside the terrain (discerned by majority of models/base), no other effects.
Edit - No rolls for Magic Terrain, unless both players want to.
Cover from intervening units/terrain
Cover is granted when at least 50% of models in target unit are fully or partially obscurred by other units/terrain from the shooting model. In order for intervening models to grant cover, their size must be: larger than, equal to, or one size smaller than both the target unit and the shooting model.
Skirmishers
Skirmishers never block LoS, and are seen in accordance with their size on the chart, but provide cover as per the above rules. The gap between skirmishers is treated as part of the unit when determining if skirmishers give cover to something behind them. Skirmishers formed up for combat block Line of Sight like normal units.
**"Simple Line of Sight"
All units and terrain pieces are divided into the following three categories.
- Blocking: Hills, Buildings and impassable terrain.
These block Line of Sight, even to other blocking terrain (You can't see through it).
- Non-Blocking: Rivers, marches and swarms.
Does not block Line of Sight (You can see through them/it).
- Interfering: All other terrain and units.
Does not block Line of Sight (You can see through them/it).
- If you shoot through interfering units or terrain there is a -2 to hit penalty, only -1 for woods (never
cumulative).
- If shooting at a large target, units in buildings or on hills there are no to hit modifiers for interfering
or non-blocking terrain or units, unless it is an interfering wood.
- When such a unit is doing the shooting there are no to hit penalties for interfering or non-blocking
units or terrain, other than interfering woods.
Team Captains are only given a vote if their team has participated in at least one of the two most recent ETC.
Vote starts from January 11st and runs till January 26th, 23:59 GMT.
When you vote, please state your name and what team you represent. This is NOT a discussion thread but a place to collect votes. if you have things to add, please open a separate topic.
Dear Captains,
Its time for you to decide how line of sight will be played at WFB ETC 2012. Bellow you will see options proposed by AR Committee.
Please vote on the following issues:
1. Line of sight at WFB ETC 2012 will be played according to:
A) True line of sight (i.e the way it is in the Rule book.)
B) Virtual line of sight (please choose type in next question)
2. Which type of Virtual line of sight for WFB ETC 2012 you prefer (if vote for first question ends in favor of Virtual line of sight):
A) Virtual Line of Sight based on variable "heights" - system we used at ETC 2011*
B) Simple line of sight (as below)**
*Virtual Line of Sight
Size chart:
0: Swarms - models of this size never block line of sight or give cover.
1: Infantry, War Beasts, War Machines, Unique without the Large Target rule
2: Cavalry, Monstrous Infantry/Cavalry/Beasts, Chariots, O&G Manglers
3: Monsters, all Large Targets
Line of sight is always checked virtually, drawn "base to base". Models see in their front 1/4 zone. Line of Sight is blocked by models that are equal to or larger than both: the model whose line of sight we are checking and its target.
Line of sight and war machines:
Catapults (and similar) can place their template so that the center is over any one unit that is at least partially visible to them.
Cannons can choose any point between themselves and a visible target when firing. Over- or under-guessing to shoot at units the cannon does not have line of sight to is not allowed
Terrain
Hills are size two for each level (so a 3-step hill is size 6) and block sight / give hard cover just like models of that size. Models standing on hills add the hill size to their own size. Edit - In 2011 all hills are level 1, therefore size 2.
Buildings and large rocks always block line of sight completely.
Forests do not block line of sight, but soft cover applies to all shots fired through or into (but not out of) forests.
Ruins do not block line of sight, but hard cover applies to all shots fired into (but not through/out of) ruins.
Units standing behind obstacles gain soft (wood) or hard (stone) cover as per the RB.
Buildings are treated as: as infinitely high, units inside are height 2 I (in terms of what they can see and determining cover against their shots). All buildings are level 1
Lakes – treat lakes exactly the same as rivers in the Rulebook
Hedges/fences etc. – treat all of them as stone obstacles: grant hard cover and -1 to hit in close combat against the defender, exactly as per the rulebook.
Fields – Soft cover for any unit inside the terrain (discerned by majority of models/base), no other effects.
Edit - No rolls for Magic Terrain, unless both players want to.
Cover from intervening units/terrain
Cover is granted when at least 50% of models in target unit are fully or partially obscurred by other units/terrain from the shooting model. In order for intervening models to grant cover, their size must be: larger than, equal to, or one size smaller than both the target unit and the shooting model.
Skirmishers
Skirmishers never block LoS, and are seen in accordance with their size on the chart, but provide cover as per the above rules. The gap between skirmishers is treated as part of the unit when determining if skirmishers give cover to something behind them. Skirmishers formed up for combat block Line of Sight like normal units.
**"Simple Line of Sight"
All units and terrain pieces are divided into the following three categories.
- Blocking: Hills, Buildings and impassable terrain.
These block Line of Sight, even to other blocking terrain (You can't see through it).
- Non-Blocking: Rivers, marches and swarms.
Does not block Line of Sight (You can see through them/it).
- Interfering: All other terrain and units.
Does not block Line of Sight (You can see through them/it).
- If you shoot through interfering units or terrain there is a -2 to hit penalty, only -1 for woods (never
cumulative).
- If shooting at a large target, units in buildings or on hills there are no to hit modifiers for interfering
or non-blocking terrain or units, unless it is an interfering wood.
- When such a unit is doing the shooting there are no to hit penalties for interfering or non-blocking
units or terrain, other than interfering woods.
Team Captains are only given a vote if their team has participated in at least one of the two most recent ETC.
Vote starts from January 11st and runs till January 26th, 23:59 GMT.
When you vote, please state your name and what team you represent. This is NOT a discussion thread but a place to collect votes. if you have things to add, please open a separate topic.
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Re: ETC 2012 - tim Srbija
Floigl Sun Jan 15, 2012 7:08 pm
Ja sam za kao sto je i do sada bilo, znaci Virtual Line of Sight. Po tom principu igramo stalno, a i manje moze da se mulja. A true line of sight nama bas i ne odgovara, ako uzmes u obzir koliko mi popijemo za vreme turnira 
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Brain Damage Mon Jan 16, 2012 4:36 pm
Ja sam za virtual line of sight i to za ovu drugu (simple line of sight) varijantu jednostavnija je za primeniti od proslogodisnje.
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Largo Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:33 am
http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=97322
Treba da glasamo za uparivanje.
Otvoren sam za predloge
Treba da glasamo za uparivanje.
Otvoren sam za predloge
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Brain Damage Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:18 pm
Ja nisam imao primedbe na prethodni nacin sparivanja, tako da bi ja rekao da glasas ne. Ali posto je to malo verovatno da ce pobediti glasao bi za 2A i 3A (najednostavnije je) ali moram reci da bi smanjivanje tima na 7 igraca po nas valjalo posto se jedva sakupimo ali mislim da je to najneverovatniji ishod glasanja.
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igor_pancevo Mon Mar 05, 2012 4:40 pm
Ako ponuda i dalje vazi: racunajte me za ETC ove godine
Igor Uzelac - Empire (ako uniste u aprilu sa novom knjigom onda Skavene vodim)
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Jogurt Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:52 pm
Ja sam zainteresovan da igram u Poljskoj ove godine sa vama.
Bogdan Obradovic -
Prvi izbor za mene su Wood Elfs
Drugi izbor su Warriors
Znam da igram sa svim vrstim elfova.
Nadam se da skupimo dobar tim i ove godine idemo ovako:
Bogdan Obradovic -
Prvi izbor za mene su Wood Elfs
Drugi izbor su Warriors
Znam da igram sa svim vrstim elfova.
Nadam se da skupimo dobar tim i ove godine idemo ovako:
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Iskusinjo Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:15 pm
Haj Elfovi. Ako Andrija bude uzeo patuljke, onda WoC.
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Floigl Thu Mar 15, 2012 3:30 pm
Sta se sada kao svi javljamo sa cime igramo? Zna se 
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Floigl Thu Mar 15, 2012 5:29 pm
Maxo, a ti moras prvo par dana sa nama u Nemacku da te zagrejemo za turnir. Tamo izgovor da si sportista ne prolazi
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Maxa Sun Mar 18, 2012 4:09 pm
Novi draft za ETC narode: http://warhammer.org.uk/phpBB/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=99850
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igor_pancevo Sun Mar 25, 2012 1:04 pm
Ubili su death/shadow magiju sa max 4 kockice - svidja mi se Ovim ce jos jace da bije light banishment spam
Smorili su sa max 4 war mashine - al i dalje ostaju dobra LOS pravila - tako da masine ostaju zasticene maksimalno - moze
Vampire su lepo ogranicili, ali i dalje ne znam kako ce ljudi ubijati jedinicu grave guarde, sa strigoi vampirom i 2 banshike - al ae.
Demone su kao malo buff, ali realno ko ce koristiti dve jedinice flamera od po 3
Drago mi je sto su chaos dwarfovi tu - jel ima neko kod nas armiju?
I da ljudi, citao sam tamo na forumu da je polako vreme da rezervisemo hostele..
P.S. Sada jos samo cekamo april da vidimo koliko ce da uniste Empire novu armisku..
Ovim ce jos jace da bije light banishment spam Smorili su sa max 4 war mashine - al i dalje ostaju dobra LOS pravila - tako da masine ostaju zasticene maksimalno - moze
Vampire su lepo ogranicili, ali i dalje ne znam kako ce ljudi ubijati jedinicu grave guarde, sa strigoi vampirom i 2 banshike - al ae.
Demone su kao malo buff, ali realno ko ce koristiti dve jedinice flamera od po 3
Drago mi je sto su chaos dwarfovi tu - jel ima neko kod nas armiju?
I da ljudi, citao sam tamo na forumu da je polako vreme da rezervisemo hostele..
P.S. Sada jos samo cekamo april da vidimo koliko ce da uniste Empire novu armisku..
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Largo Wed Apr 04, 2012 5:13 pm
Rezervisao sam nam smeštaj.
Hostel je:
HOSTEL GORZÓW WLKP.
http://www.hotelrobotniczy.com/
Cena je 50 PLN za noć po čoveku
Cenim da je odnos nekih 4 PLN za 1€
Hostel je:
HOSTEL GORZÓW WLKP.
http://www.hotelrobotniczy.com/
Cena je 50 PLN za noć po čoveku
Cenim da je odnos nekih 4 PLN za 1€
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igor_pancevo Fri Apr 06, 2012 11:30 am
Jel radimo neke majce/duksere sa grbom i natpisom Srbija? 
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severian Fri Apr 06, 2012 6:18 pm
Nije uopšte loše misliti o tom na vreme. Neki od onih Endreovih od prošle godine ?
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Floigl Fri Apr 06, 2012 8:04 pm
Onaj jedan Endreov orao je fenomenalan za Poljsku
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Largo Sun Apr 08, 2012 4:11 pm
Daj da uhvatimo pre nego što zabegne u Arabiju
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Floigl Sun Apr 08, 2012 5:53 pm
Evo nasao sam njegove orlove.
Mozda malo da se doprave, mada sumnjam da on sada ima vremena za to. Ali ako bi se radile prisivke kao pre dve godine onda su i ovi ok. Ja sam za drugi ponudjeni
Mozda malo da se doprave, mada sumnjam da on sada ima vremena za to. Ali ako bi se radile prisivke kao pre dve godine onda su i ovi ok. Ja sam za drugi ponudjeni
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